This Month’s Writers’ Critique – Add Your Advice
This month’s DPS Writer’s Critique comes to us from Carrie Marshall, a member of the community here at Digital Photography School. As with the previous critique, the format here is meant to be instructive and informative and not so scientifically analytical and thus it doesn’t matter much whether the photographer is a professional or amateur. We can almost always learn something new from reviewing our own and others’ work.
Carrie’s photograph was taken on the main island of Maokung while touring through the Penghu Islands of Taiwan and is featured on her travel blog My Several World. It was taken with a Canon Digital Rebel 400D XTi and the 18-55mm kit lens. She admits to slightly adjusting the saturation, a little sharpening and a minor crop, but that is all.
Helen Bradley – I really love the composition of this photo, in fact I thought it was a collage piece when I first saw it it was so compelling an image. Congratulations on capturing it. My comments relate to post production aspects only. I’d like to see a bit more of a color boost in the temple details behind the central statue and a little less of the vignette effect which I think is perhaps a little too heavy. I also wonder if, by working with the midtone contrast and performing some subtle shadow detail recovery on the statue you might crisp up the detail there a bit. This would be a perfect composition too to use for HDR processing if you had the shots to do it with.
Jim Goldstein – Carrie’s image has great visual appeal. The statue and architectural detail are visually engaging particularly combined with the saturated colors. While I am a fan of using vignetting to highlight a photo subject, I do find the amount of vignetting a little heavy handed. Other than the vignetting I would recommend that Carrie experiment with using both deep and shallow depth of field settings with such subjects and composition. Everything in this photo is in focus which most would think is a good thing, but considering how busy this photo is use of shallow depth of field would help guide the viewer to focus on what the photographer thinks is the most important part of the photo. Vignetting can accomplish this, but for objects in the center of the frame. Shallow depth of field allows focus to fall on a photographed object no matter where it falls in the frame. Two different tools for a similar effect, but employed for different areas of a photo. Food for thought. Keep up the great work Carrie you’d definitely got an eye for engaging photo subjects.
Natalie Norton – As with any shot everything is relative and clearly subjective. I think the image is compositionally sound. The image is quite balanced. . . perhaps slightly weighted to the right but not obnoxiously so. I may have trimmed in to a tighter crop to achieve a more clean sense of balance, but again, that’s all preferential. The colors are nice and the subject is intriguing. The image is slightly bright in the center section which continually draws my eye to that portion of the image (we’re most often drawn to the brightest part of an image first) and as that is clearly not the dominant focal point so I’m not particularly comfortable with that. I’m not at all fond of the vignette applied in post. Overall it is a great image. Like I said, quite balanced and compositionally sound. I find myself curious as to the story behind it! Great work!
Barrie Smith – I find the composition the only flaw in this image. The eye switches back and forth from the god on the left to the dragon on the right. Asia is full of pictures like this. Maybe the camera should have placed the dragon larger in foreground, throwing the god out of focus slightly.
Chas Elliot – Very nice shot Carrie. The composition is very busy, but in a good way. As a viewer you can move from one part of the image to another and stay interested, and I like images when the main focus is not dead-center. Judging by the harsh shadows and highlights, it looks like it was taken on a very sunny day. I often find images taken in this environment to benefit from added “warmth”. By giving the image more orange and yellows, you truly get the feel that it was a warm and sunny day, rather than a cold, wintery day. Using an image editor, I added some warmth and did a small boost on the color saturation (something you can more easily do if there are no human subjects in the shot). Not a big change, but see what you think. [Click here to see Chas' edits]
Peter Carey – First, I really like this shot as it conveys a dramatic sense of exoticness to me. It’s something new and exciting and has a lot of elements at work, both with the gray stone and the more colorful accents. The vignette is a bit too much for my liking while I also think it brings some focus to the image. I still can’t decide which side wins in that battle. I love the colors and would like to see a bit more saturation maybe, perhaps done with a mask to help them stand out from the blue sky. Not knowing the circumstances or location, I also think a position slightly down to the right and just isolating two elements in the image, instead of the three shown, might have clamed the image a little, but it’s hard to say. The image makes me think of travel and ancient cultures.
What do you think of Carrie’s photograph? Please share your opinion in the comments section below and remember, keep if friendly, please, whether you like the shot or not.





24 Responses to “This Month’s Writers’ Critique – Add Your Advice” - Add Yours
May 5th, 2009 at 1:44 am
I think that’s an awesome photo. Would love to see it without vignette effect but otherwise it still makes great impact. I think colors are great and more saturation might just make it artificial to my eyes. My 2 cents
I have been fortunate to follow Carrie work through her blog for over an year and she consistently produces stunning images such as these
May 5th, 2009 at 3:00 am
This is a fun image and definitely captures some emotion related to travel. I like to use vignette myself but in this one it feels a little strong and adds some busyness to an already busy photo. I think the center of the photo feels a little blown out…I’m not sure if you already tweaked this some. I look forward to checking your blog and seeing more of your work.
May 5th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
I agree with Ashish. It’d be good to see minus the vignette. Other than that, it’s a great image – the colors are good as they are. Any more boosting of the saturation would render it too artificial looking. Good work Carrie.
May 5th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
If anyone’s interested, the original image is up on My Several Worlds , minus the frame and vignette. Thanks to everyone for your comments and advice. You can view the original at http://www.myseveralworlds.com/2009/05/05/carrie-marshall-photography-on-dpss-monthly-critique/
May 6th, 2009 at 2:12 am
My favorite part is the framing. I like the competing subjects in this photo. Great job!
May 6th, 2009 at 6:52 am
This has been one of my favorites since Carrie first posted it up on her Flickr stream. But I do have to say I like it better without the frame.
May 6th, 2009 at 8:16 am
I like the tighter framing better (the one in the photo following the link by Carrie). It still seems to me a little messy on the right side. I like colors: the contrast with the blue sky and the white cloud.
But it doesn´t get to catch my eye. I think it’s the composition: it doen’t get your eyes moving through the whole screen, like in the great photos.
May 6th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
I believe the photo is weighted to the right a bit. but not to much. the photo signifies the power of both animal and people. the animals are larger than the person in the background which sort of reminds us of the power of nature. yet, the animal is gray, and humans are vibrant with colour which also signifies ‘life’ in a sort of way and having the power to rule over it. the humans seem as they are looking down which gives us a sense of power. but the irony is the size. usually the more powerful, the larger. however this photo is different its got a unique way of portraying the scene and the balance of power. Great shot
May 8th, 2009 at 10:30 am
Great shot, overall, and I agree wth Ex Puexto. I also liked the tighter framing better. The photo seemed a little busy to me and I had to focus for awhile to see everything going on. Loved the colors and the feel of the photo.
May 8th, 2009 at 10:38 am
I agree, that the vignetting does not do the photo justice. Also, I would have cropped the corner of the building at the upper left out, leaving the two prime objects in. I think it would give it more impact, and make the photo less ‘busy’.
May 8th, 2009 at 11:24 am
Just seems way too busy. I have a hard time deciding what is the subject of the picture.
May 8th, 2009 at 11:42 am
Carrie,
I followed the link and have to tell you that I LOVE it! So much less busy, so much more balanced, far more pleasing to look at. A FANTASTIC work!
Nat
May 8th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
I like the shot, though I find it a tad too busy. The human or god figure perched on the upturned eaves in away adds to a narrative, though half of me is saying that I am distracted by it as apparently the stone lion already dominates the image. Perhaps giving focus only to the lion would have given the image some clear direction. The framing is very good, except that maybe if the photographer moved a bit to her left thus keeping the roof “detached” from the lion and let some sky thru, + DOF tweaked, there would have been more of a “narrative” — for me. The colors are there but it looks wanting of some boost. And, there is vignetting that seems to have been pushed way too far for my taste.
May 8th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Hi Natalie,
Thanks. That was the photo I intended to submit. The photo you see here was used for my web site logo. I added the vignette to make my title and sub title stand out. However, when I originally sent the photos to Peter for his site, I was careless and sent the wrong file. When Peter asked me about the post-processing I had done to this photo, I responded with a little cropping and and some saturation. I felt a bit silly when I realized the one with the vignette and frame was up here. Regardless though, I’m happy that everyone has taken the time to comment on my work. Next time, I’ll be more careful with my submissions.
May 8th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
When I saw Carrie’s photo, I noticed the vignette effect in the first glance.
The picture is taken extremely well. The composition is very good. As some
readers have pointed out that it is heavy on the right hand side, but I guess
Carrie did not have any other choice at the time of taking the picture. The
vignetting, in fact, is helping to offset some of the weight on the right hand
side.
In conclusion I would say that if the vignetting towards the right hand
lower corner was gradually reduced (starting from top right of the picture),
the frame could have looked a little more balanced (well, to me it looks
resonably balnced even as it is). Congratulations Carrie.
May 8th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Great photo! At the risk of redundancy, I don’t care for the vignette effect. I’d like to see the blue in the sky “pop” a little more OR, using layers, convert the statue to B&W to bring out more in more contrast the details of the statue. It’s a photo worth jealousy, and I am! Congrats!
May 9th, 2009 at 3:10 am
I agree with Helen ideal for HDR,but if not I would adjust the sky contrast to be slightly more dramatic. But a really cool image.
Al.
May 9th, 2009 at 7:12 am
To me there’s too much going on in the photo–to the point of distraction. I find the “man on the roof” portion of the image to have the most interest and would like to see the sculture blurred, either pre-production or post production.
May 10th, 2009 at 5:59 am
This critique really can help you to improve if you take it positive. This shot should be more wide and the left corner temple and statue should be more prominent than the big white statue. To get more in your frame just set your lens at its widest and go back at a good distance. This shot is too messy, distracting and confusing as the right side vertical contains a detailed and figure less portion and the left corner is having too short of its demand.
May 10th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
The photo is full of color – that makes it vivid and eye catching.
It looks like you tried to frame the “gray beast” with the ruffs and vignette effect. Actually the frame takes too much attention. The 1st object that caught my eyes was the colorful guard on the top left corner (following the “rule of thirds”), just after I’ve continued to explore the “gray beast” that looks like meant to be the main object of the picture. The background takes too much attention.
May 13th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Carrie,
I enjoy the busyness in the photo. It gives the shot a bit of a story for what is not viewed outside the frame. With that said the story in the picture needs some clarity. I am focused on two aspects in the photo, the dragon and the “god.” You stated there was some cropping and I was curious how? A little movement in the framing could make this photo pop at the viewer. In addition, some shadow and highlight work could make the sky pop more as well. The clouds need a little more contrast to the sky which I feel is a little overexposed. If you are familiar with exposure lock it would likely make the sky pop more with a lock on your primary subject. All in all a great picture and one that displays your vision for a great photo that isn’t necessarily following the rule of thirds.
ryan jackson
May 14th, 2009 at 10:56 am
This is a fun, whimsical photo that pushes the viewer back to the center no matter where your eyes go. I do struggle to figure out what the primary subject is in the photo. The big, gray statue has too much contrast to hold my attention despite its size. I find my eyes going to the smaller, more colorful figure in the back, especially with the strong white clouds behind it. And then I find them moving back to the front again … and then back. Maybe that’s good but I’d prefer to settle in one place. Even with these flaws(?), I come away from looking at it with a little smile on my face.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
What I like best about this picture is the lighting. It especially brings out the contours and shapes of the dragon statue. People have talked about working with the depth of field to create specific focus and such and I do agree with them, but I feel that the general focus of the picture works as well. It looks almost like a painting depicting a king and a dragon in action! The vignetting is a little too heavy for me but other than that, the composition’s good and its a well shot image:)
May 14th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
What I like best about this picture is the lighting. It especially brings out the contours and shapes of the dragon statue. People have talked about working with the depth of field to create specific focus and such and I do agree with them, but I feel that the general focus of the picture works as well. It looks almost like a painting depicting a king and a dragon in action! The vignetting is a little too heavy for me but other than that, the composition’s good and its a well shot image:)
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